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Talking to children is to promote understanding, not to lecture or persuade!

By Dr. Yang Weijie, \White Robe Traveler Pediatrics

Thinking back to about two years ago when I first heard the word "satyr", my first thought was: Is this some kind of mystical religious group? (Then I didn't take it very seriously and just missed it! During the two years since I first heard about reading, a friend of mine took the whole family to a workshop and came back with a great recommendation, using the theory and methods of the class to dramatically improve parent-child interactions, and my friend's experience sparked my interest and curiosity, but I still didn't take any action XD In the end, it was because of a post I made before New Year's Eve that an older brother, who takes care of our family, sent the book to me directly without saying a word! He sent the book directly to me, and since my big brother did this, I must respectfully kneel (big mistake) to finish the book! However, to be honest, the first time I read the book I did not really appreciate the essence of Satir's dialog, I was lost in the iceberg theory, I felt confused, unable to truly and y understand the power of dialogue and why to explore the iceberg under the kinds of; New Year's Day after the children to collect the holiday collection of hard work I was also tired, I couldn't help but take the book back up to reread, the second time I reread the book to let me have a real realization ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I have to say, in order to really I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do this, but I'm sure I'll be able to do it in the future!

Satir: The Pioneer of Family Therapy

Satir was an American social psychologist in the twentieth century, and her theories were the forerunner of modern family therapy. In the early twentieth century, Freud, Adler, and other psychologists found that the family has a certain degree of influence on personal growth in research and clinical experience, and in the 1920s, the United States established the American Association of Behavioral Psychiatry, with the goal of preventing emotional disorders in children, and then scholars began to pay attention to how the environment and social networks affect the person; to the 1930s, the child and the professional In the 1930s, child and professional marriage counseling began to flourish, and in addition to treating the individual's inner self, interpersonal relationships should also be dealt with. Gradually, in the 40s and 50s, the concept of the family began to be used to understand the individual's behavior, and it is generally believed that family therapy began in the 50s! And the theory proposed by Satir is also regarded as one of the schools of family therapy.

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What is the Satir Dialogue: Understanding Your Own Inner Iceberg and Understanding Others with Curiosity

The author of this book is Chongjian Li. John Behrman, in his study of Satir's theories, distilled the 'iceberg' mentioned in Satir's book, and developed the idea exquisitely and perfectly (Behrman interview). According to the theory, people's first relationship is to interact with their family, so the lesson of relationship begins with the family; the gestures we are accustomed to correspond to come from our family in the earliest days; and the gestures our children correspond to will also be built up slowly in this small family! And in order to survive, man brings out the visible counterparts, the part of the iceberg above the water, which is visible to our eyes! But the part that is under the surface, the bigger part, is hidden deep under the surface, just like the inner depths of man, the inner man. This book is about teaching us how to recognize ourselves and others in our conversations, and how to draw out the part of the iceberg that lies beneath the surface of the water, beneath the surface of the water: feelings, feelings about feelings, perspectives, expectations, desires, the ego.

As I've read and practiced in my life, the Satir dialogues emphasize that it's the 'self' that has to be tuned in first. It is important to be able to recognize and explore one's own iceberg, so that one's inner and outer self are in a state of harmony, and then one is better able to explore the icebergs of others. This reminds me of the safety instructions on airplanes: when the oxygen mask is down, please put on your own oxygen mask first, and then help the child next to you to put it on!

Why Study Satir Conversations?

In the bustling market, in front of a candy vendor, a crying three-year-old boy was holding a candy in his hand, and his mother was standing beside him with an anxious and angry face!

"Didn't you say you wanted to eat it? Now you don't want to eat it, don't eat it, don't eat it ....』. The mother reached out and took away the candy

"I want to eat! The boy who was robbed of the candy cried even louder and more rapidly

The mother was very angry and said, "I don't want any of this, I don't want any of that, what are you going to do..."

The owner of the stall cut the candies and said in a didactic tone, "Be a good boy.

The child was attacked from both sides and cried even more rapidly and stomped his feet in anger!

The mom was even more furious, "You're so hard to please, if you keep it up, I'm not going to take care of you anymore.

What a familiar scene (laughs)!

"Brother, are you okay?"

Mr. Lee slowly walked over to her. Mr. Li slowly walked over to the mother and gave her a caring look before squatting down and gently holding the child's hand! The child cried even louder, but Mr. Lee realized that these were not tears of anger, but rather tears of frustration!

"You look very sad and anxious, don't you? The boy nodded at the teacher as he listened to the cries being curbed.

『What happened?' The teacher asked with concentration and harmony.

The boy pointed to the candies on the stand: 'I want to eat candies'.

The teacher pointed to the candy in the mother's hand: 'Do you want to eat the candy that mom is holding? (I think the teacher is very good here, he can tell from the child's non-verbal behavior (crying, movement, eyes, etc.) that the child doesn't want the candy in the mother's hand, and he checks with the child!)

The child shook his head and said, "No!

The teacher slowly asked, "You want to eat the candy, but you don't want to eat the candy in your mom's hand, right?

The child nodded again and his expression was much more relaxed!

"What's wrong with this candy? Why don't you want to eat it?

The child's tender voice: "The candy fell on the floor, it's dirty".

The teacher stood up and scrutinized the candy in the mother's hand, and saw that there was indeed some dirt on it, so the teacher checked with the child again: 'Did the candy fall on the floor?

The child nodded!

After checking back and forth again, it turns out that the mom took the boy to buy candy, and the boy saw from afar that when the master cut the candy, it accidentally fell on the ground, and it was the one on the mom's hand, so he insisted on not eating it.

After the mother realized the situation, she was very angry with the boss for not being honest, and also annoyed with the child for not making it clear from the beginning!

But as parents, we all know that we don't have the chance to let our kids talk when we're in a hurry, and when they're in a hurry, they have to cry, and then the situation gets out of hand...

In this story, we can see how the three protagonists: the boss, the mom, and the kid, responded to each other

The boss: Trying to cover up a mistake and get away with it

The boss, the mom, and the kid. The boss: trying to cover up the mistake and teach the child

The mother: loving the child and caring for the child but expressing her anger

The child: loving the mother and wanting to eat candies but expressing her love by crying and screaming

In our daily life, do we also have the same problem of the external behaviors (the corresponding behavior)? In our daily lives, is it not true that our external behaviors (gestures) do not match our deep-seated desires?

Why do we do this? To protect ourselves! Protecting ourselves from harm, many things are chosen to be forgotten. However, some memories, although seemingly forgotten by the brain, are memorized by the body as well as by the emotions, the implicit memories we mentioned in our previous article. When we experience similar situations in the future, our body or emotions show these memories in an irrational way, but the brain processes things in a rational way, creating an inconsistency between inside and outside!

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Think of couples who are sometimes like this:

Wife: 'Husband, that whoever received a Hermes on the anniversary of their marriage, yeah'

Gong: (head down to pick up the rice) 'Oh! Didn't you say you didn't need this when we were dating? These are just businessmen's gimmicks!

Wife: "Why don't we go to a good restaurant? I heard that so-and-so restaurant is good.

Gong: "If you want to order it! I can do it!

In fact, just a few lines of dialogue with seemingly simple, in fact, the bottom of the waves, the wife may have been thinking for a long time very much hope that Mr. said, Mr. may be thinking of all the old married couple, there is no need to spend so unnecessarily! Although the wife would like to have a romantic dinner or Mr. Some specifics, but Mr. may feel that you are happy with all the good I through with, but the wife may have been in the heart of the heart of the crush of the husband of a million times, angry, why this kind of thing to girls to take the initiative to mention ...

Why do people used to deal with such a way? Why is it so hard for people to say what their heart desires directly? Because this way can let both have a retreat, the atmosphere does not seem too awkward! But after a long time, will get used to wearing a mask, even their own do not know what they really look like!

The Satir Dialog is about teaching people how to have a deeper understanding of themselves, of others, of their parents, of their children, and of the part of them that has been hidden under the iceberg for a long time!

How to go deeper into your own iceberg and the icebergs of others through dialog: Deliberately practicing curiosity

From my perspective, modern young parents are in a transition period. The authoritative parenting of the past is slowly crumbling, and more and more parents are trying to move away from the traditional scolding approach to parenting, emphasizing more on love and respect for the individual; we are slowly moving from 'listening' to 'dialoguing'! However, the new way of raising children with love and respect has left us, who were beaten and scolded when we were young and grew up with no idea what to do, and the children are even more unmanaged, and their emotions come out and they start to swing wildly, so what should parents who are anxious and angry do? The beat down accompanied by deep guilt and self-blame (how can they not control their emotions?). Why couldn't I talk to my child properly? How can I teach my child to be like this, am I a failure as a parent?) The first thing I want to do is to make sure that I have a good understanding of what I am talking about.

That's what made this book so difficult for me! I read through the suggested methods, but realized: the biggest problem is my own mindset and emotions.

As we can see in the above story of Silver Candy, Ms. Lee is able to care for the child in a focused and harmonious way all the time, noticing what the child is saying outside of words, and gently checking back and forth. As the examples in the book are mostly in the form of dialogues, I would simulate the conversations between my child and me in my mind while reading the book, and I would rehearse our conversation patterns in my mind before reading the teacher's, and such a reading pattern often made me feel stuck myself! It's not the semantics that get me stuck, it's the logic behind the questions that Mr. Chongjian asks, questions that I haven't thought about asking? Or to put it bluntly, points that I haven't thought about for my child often pop up in the conversation and surprise me. I notice my shortcomings in conversations with my children: I just rush to solve problems, often in a didactic way! I was able to probe the motivations for my children's behavior with curious statements when I was emotionally stable, but when I was rushing to get my two children fed, showered, and organized in the kitchen to read and play with them each night, I was often unable to be at peace. Mr. Lee himself says in the book that it took him more than ten years from the time he started learning from Bateman to the time when he was really familiar with the Iceberg Dialogues! So, dialog is something that needs to be practiced deliberately.

Ms. Lee emphasized that you can start by deliberately practicing curiosity, because with curiosity comes acceptance, which is more relaxing for the child, and if you take it a step further and use curiosity to understand the child, it helps the child become aware of his or her own responsibilities, and that's the beginning of the change! Think of all the conversations we've had with other kids in our kids' kindergarten, where we've had less of an urge to lecture and try to solve problems, and where we've often been able to get information from other kids about their families (a big mistake), and then we get in the car and we can't even ask our own kids what they're going to eat for lunch. !!!!

How do we deliberately practice satir conversations in life?

Here's the specific way the Traveling Woman herself applies it to her life:

To practice satiric conversation, you need quiet space, and a steady, focused mind, so I have to deal with myself first! I've huffed and puffed several times before to my husband after work: I'm always trying to find ways to empathize with my kids and soothe them, but who's going to empathize with my emotions and who's going to soothe them? (I feel sorry for my husband who is tired after work and is bombarded by my emotions haha! Luckily, my husband is always able to take over my explosions). In the past, the process of taking care of children at night: rushing home to bathe the child first - > dinner - > organize the kitchen - > play with - > brush teeth and dragged to bed (and then the mother often can not find the time to take a bath); these days, I have tried to: come home to play with (by the way, I can not find time to play). I've been trying to: come home, play with them (and warm up dinner), organize myself and the kids-> let the kids decide whether they want to take a bath or eat first-> after I've dealt with them and they're happy, I'll finish up in the kitchen and do the dishes. I changed my mindset of rushing through the house and the kids (always wanting to get it over with) and took care of the kids and my moods and emotions first, so that I was more stable! Begin by asking curious questions. Conversation is about getting to know the child better, not about lecturing and convincing: Think about the way we interact with other children. We are often more curious and patient with other children because we don't want to solve other children's problems, and we feel comfortable talking y. Instead of trying to solve other children's problems, we feel comfortable going deeper into the conversation, and often want to preach in two sentences when confronted with our own children! We have to change our language habits. The book mentions five no's when having a conversation with a child: "Don't accuse, don't order, don't lecture, don't lead to the answer you want, don't ask why or what do you think in the first three sentences? I find it super, super difficult, but I only ask myself to do one at a time, for example, practicing not asking why for a few days! After a small habit is established, I can move on to the next change in my linguistic habits! Having just understood recognizing satyr conversations, I was giddy to practice in each one! But after the last couple of days I realized: it's probably not a good time to do it when your child is in the middle of an emotional storm! Conversations, need quiet space, at least for us as beginners. When the upper and lower layers of a child's brain are already separated, it's better to wait for the emotional storm to pass and then have a good conversation with the child with a tolerant heart! Is it appropriate to use this kind of dialog even when the child is young? My feeling is that my 2.5 year old sister can understand and feel my concern and tolerance for her from the tone of voice and the conversation, but it is difficult to talk about self-expectation in more depth with a 2.5 year old! You can start this kind of conversation, especially with older children, and invite them to practice with you. With younger children immersed in this kind of environment, I think you'll be able to do it better in the future!

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Last thoughts

After reading a lot of books on brain sciences, physiology, and emotions, I've come to the conclusion that the child's brain is not mature enough for the child's brain to be able to function in the way it should. The most important thing is that we need to be able to help them to develop their emotions! The biggest problem is whether adults have learned good self-management of their emotions while growing up. Even if they have, in the busy work pressure and life chores, emotional stability is consumed, even I work full-time, do not need to worry about work things will feel the night after the two together to the bed before the mental state of the most tense, think about it if the double pay couples off the shift and then run into a day of play and also tired of no self-control of the child, it is really miserable XD A little more reading, know more about the method as well as The reason for this is to allow us to have more alternatives and modes of thinking in different moments of crisis, but after reading it, you have to practice it and put it into practice, so it's not a waste of time to read it! Parenting is really bad! Thank you all for working together, just one less scolding of a child per day would be a great improvement for all of us, wouldn't it?^^

Reprinted with permission from The White Robe Traveler, the original source of Satir's Conversation Exercises ~ Conversations are meant to promote understanding, not to preach or persuade