Who will be the first domestic car in the future?

This answer should be uncontroversial, but I found that no one below answered correctly. This car company can be called Huawei in the automotive industry, with a market value of more than 500 billion, surpassing well-known international brands such as Hyundai, Honda, GM and BMW, ranking fourth in the world. Second only to Tesla, Toyota and Volkswagen. This car company set off a revolution in the automobile industry in a subtle way, which made the major international car companies tremble. Its name sounds very low, and many people disdain this brand. It's like swearing to mention its name. Speaking of which, you should have guessed it.

I used to talk to you about domestic car brands. I simply divide them into one, two and three lines. The first-line brands are Geely, Great Wall, Chery, BYD and Hongqi, and I think there will be good development in the future. The second line is dominated by established state-owned enterprises. SAIC, FAW, Changan, Guangzhou Automobile, Dongfeng and Jianghuai can basically reach the level of joint venture vehicles, and it is not a problem to survive. The third line is other brands, and there may be pearl jadeite, but I'm sorry that my level is limited and I can't cover everything.

In addition, I know that Hongqi belongs to FAW, but I still come up with this brand list, because the brand value of Hongqi is not at the same level as Pentium and Xinya.

However, many people are not convinced. In terms of sales volume, Geely, Great Wall and Chang 'an should be the first line, and should be the top three domestic cars. BYD and Chery are still slightly inferior. If the sales volume is higher than this figure, the red flag may not be listed. In fact, one person has one idea, and different standards have different points. If it is based on the future development potential and the current enterprise background and technology accumulation, it should be one super and many strong.

Let's talk about the third line first: Beiqi, Southeast, Zotye and Cheetah ... It doesn't mean that domestic third-line brands don't have good cars, not necessarily. But these car companies often have one thing in common: they don't have their own core technology and excellent research and development capabilities. One of the most obvious features is that they are still using Mitsubishi engines. It is not so much a car as a car. The core of the patchwork is not your own.

Of course, in today's global economic integration, the world's division of labor and cooperation can not be said to be wrong, but we can also see from the side that enterprises lack technical reserves and are subject to people everywhere, so it is difficult to have a good development in the future.

For example, some new car-making forces, including Tucki, Weimar, Weilai and Ideality, need to buy batteries outside because they don't have their own three-electricity technology, so I think most of them can be classified as third-line. Among them, Weilai's market value almost exceeds BYD's, but I am still not optimistic. Pure tram is the future trend, but there are great variables. Once there is a breakthrough in battery technology, slowing down may be beyond redemption.

At the bottom of the second line: BAIC and Dongfeng only talk about passenger cars here. Dongfeng has made great achievements in other fields, but in the field of passenger cars, Dongfeng Shen Feng, Dongfeng Qichen and Dongfeng are all in a half-dead state, and they are still using Mitsubishi engines. In fact, there is no obvious gap with the third line, but the family business is big.

BAIC is a little helpless. In order to foster Beiqi New Energy, plug-in hybrid vehicles cannot enjoy the policy of Beijing New Energy. But the result is obvious. BAIC doesn't have a hot-selling brand, and the engine is even bought from Harvard. BJ40 and H9 are the same engine, and almost all of them are transfused by joint venture companies.

Second line: FAW, JAC JAC, although the market performance is not very good, in fact, people still have a foundation. Especially in the transformation of new energy, the response is rapid, and it has come to the front of many car companies. The industrial foundation is still very good, otherwise Weilai will not choose Jianghuai OEM. However, compared with the first-line brands, the gap in product strength is still obvious, and the brand strength is really terrible. Many future car owners have put JAC behind Weilai. In Shenyang, there are eight Jianghuai glistening cars in ten hearses.

FAW: If we don't take out the red flag, only Xinya and Pentium will be left. Should Xinya be a joint venture brand? After all, FAW and Dafa cooperated. Whatever it is, sales and market performance are not good. If you take it out alone, it is a third-line brand that can be abandoned at any time. Pentium can be better, and I feel that FAW is working hard. I feel that the strategic layout is about Volkswagen and Audi. As a high-end brand, Hongqi is heading for luxury cars, like Audi, Pentium is more close to the people, like Volkswagen. Although the sales performance is average, the product strength is not weak, and the thermal efficiency of the engine is close to 40%, which completely reaches the level of joint venture vehicles. Like Pentium T99, it is guaranteed for life like Red Flag.

Second-line top matching: SAIC, GAC and Changan SAIC's brands mainly include: Datong, Roewe, MG, Wuling and Baojun. I think this is a joint venture. After all, people are called SAIC-GM-Wuling and SAIC-GM-Wuling Baojun.

Datong people mainly play light passengers, micro-noodles, pickup trucks, and even school buses and RV. Originally considered as the commercial vehicle field, people also produce SUVs and MPVs. In fact, the products are all right, especially MPV models. However, the marketing is not in place, and I feel that the company's focus is still in the field of commercial vehicles, and there is no force in the field of passenger cars.

Let's talk about MG and Roewe together. They are both descendants of British Rover. Is the name rover familiar? By the way, Land Rover, do you know each other this time? It used to be a cow, but later it went bankrupt because of poor management. At that time, Nanqi and SAIC. The two companies bid for the acquisition. Nanqi spent 53 million pounds to win the MG production plant, and SAIC spent 67 million pounds to buy the technical data and production rights of Rover 75. However, the right to use the Land Rover trademark is in the hands of BMW. If BMW refuses, SAIC can only be renamed Roewe. Later, Nanqi and SAIC filed a lawsuit, arguing about who was of British descent. Later, after the above adjustment, the two companies only cooperated. Finally, SAIC acquired more than 50% of the shares of Nanqi, and the two companies merged into one.

Simply put, this is a closed foreign car company. We bought it back at a high price. Technology was still in the 1980s. In fact, the actual help is very limited. I feel that it will sell better if we pack the outer packaging. This is also the feeling that SAIC gave me. Good marketing, bad car, but not outstanding. The thermal efficiency of the engine developed in cooperation with GM is 37.5%, which can be said to be the mainstream level and not bad. For example, the sports style of the MG has been inherited, and the design is also in line with the aesthetics of young people. However, the early word-of-mouth was done by dry double clutch, and now it can only take a back seat.

Guangzhou Automobile: There is still a gap between the sales of Guangzhou Automobile's own brands Chuanqi and Ai 'an (formerly Guangzhou Automobile New Energy) and the previous period, but the R&D capability and technical reserve are first-class, even comparable to the first line. The engine thermal efficiency of Moment Wave Power is 42. 1%, which is the peak level of domestic cars at present, surpassing the first-line joint venture brands such as Toyota, Honda and Volkswagen. It is said that Honda has no engine delivery, and GAC's 2.0T engine is no worse than Honda's, and the delivered car is better.

In addition, the 7-speed wet dual clutch powered by Moment Wave is also very popular, with complete intellectual property rights, and its ride comfort, service life and transmission efficiency have reached the leading level in the industry. I seem to have won a top ten gearbox in the world this year. At present, there are almost no short boards in the field of fuel vehicles.

In addition, GAC Ai 'an's new energy vehicles can also play well, and its autonomous driving technology is said to have reached L4 level. Even if it is operated independently, people still have so many years of experience and knowledge in building cars. Compared with some new forces that need OEM, it has obvious advantages. It's just that GAC was also pitted by Fiat's double clutch in the early days. Chuanqi GS4 once reached the second level of monthly sales. As a result, due to the problem of double clutch, its reputation plummeted. Later, I had to change AT, but word of mouth collapsed, leaving people with the impression of high failure rate. Now the product is strong, but it will take time to re-establish the brand image.

To be honest, I want to put GAC on the front line.

Chang 'an: It is said that Chang 'an is the second line, but many riders are dissatisfied. I used to be a fan of Chang 'an, and I was excited and proud of the Blue Whale Platform. In terms of sales volume, Changan is a proper first-line brand, and there is nothing wrong with it. Cars have Changan Yidong and SUVs have CS75, both of which are hot-selling brands. The product line is also relatively neat, from CS 15, 35, 55 to 75, 85, 95, and there is basically no escape. High-end brands UNIT and UNIK have good market performance, at least the value is attractive. Auchan, a low-end brand, is also cheap.

Sales volume is the first line, and technically it is also the first line in China. The reason why Chang 'an is placed in the second line is because of the problem of virtual standard lowering. For example, CS75Plus, the actual performance is actually enough, and you don't want to drive the track for your family. It doesn't matter whether the power is dozens of horses or the torque is dozens of nm. But I can't accept imaginary parameters. In the final analysis, this is false propaganda, which is related to the integrity of the enterprise!

In addition, I know that Chedi did a comparative disassembly of CS75plus and H6 in the first phase, and the CS75plus was obviously reduced, and the rear anti-collision beam was the same as paper, which did not play a protective role!

The reason why I spray Japanese and German is not because of where they come from, but because they are not well matched! It's hard for me to convince myself to adopt double standards on this issue.

There is no obvious dividing line between the second-line top and the first-line top, so I think it should be changed to "one super is more powerful"

First-line brands: BYD, Great Wall, Geely, Chery and Hongqi: probably the first luxury car brand in China.

Red Flag has its own luxury gene, which can clearly feel that people are moving in the direction of building luxury brands, and there is no requirement for quantity. Cars are all B-class cars, while SUVs only have a compact E-HS3, which is still a new energy source. The price of the red flag is not close to the people at all. If the product itself, the engine performance with complete intellectual property rights can only be said to be average, and the materials used are solid. It seems that the lightweight design is not valued, so the fuel consumption is slightly higher. This is also in line with the brand positioning of Hongqi. Take the high end, fuel consumption is not the key.

I have always held the view that if you buy more than 300,000 yuan, you will not buy a car, but you will choose more circles and people. Hongqi has such a cultural heritage and such a user base. Driving a red flag, in fact, you don't need to care about the car, whether the acceleration of 100 kilometers is fast or slow, and whether the fuel consumption is more or less. that this is not the important question. You don't need to choose a red flag to care about these. Whether it's 300,000 yuan or 400,000 yuan, what you bought is one person's design, mature and steady, with a successful career, and never forgetting your roots.

Hongqi has the cultural background to build a luxury brand, and now it seems that the road is right. The hardware may not be that strong, but it's not bad. Moreover, all models of Hongqi now provide the first owner with a lifetime warranty with unlimited mileage and unlimited years.

Chery: What about low-end brands if you build a car in a down-to-earth manner?

Chery is the first developing automobile company in China. 37. The engine with1%thermal efficiency once led the whole country, and it is still out of date today. Its Wan Liyang CVT, performance is not lost to Japanese. Although at present, it is mainly the power combination of 1.6T+ dual clutch, it is very strong and durable for family cars.

Japanese Sanjie, how many years have you been eating 2.0L+CVT powertrain? How many cars did Volkswagen build with EA2 1 1+DSG? It is said that Chery's 2.0T engine, code-named F4J20, has been successfully ignited. It is expected to be mass-produced in June+10 next year, and it is expected to be carried on its high-end brand Star Road.

Chery is ill-fated among domestic car companies, but it is also quite ambitious, giving people a practical feeling. Engine warranty 10,100000 km, many models promise engine lifetime warranty. Its low-end brand Jiewei also had a warranty of 65,438+200,000 kilometers in 2000, and there was no restriction on first-time car owners. It is very valuable in low-priced models.

Geely: Is there a difference between the acquired technology and the developed technology?

Geely's acquisition of Volvo has undergone a qualitative change. Before, I thought that the Volvo that Geely bought from Ford didn't get the core technology, and the three technologies of Volvo were not particularly excellent except safety. However, as it turns out, the two did stimulate the chemical reaction. Geely didn't directly use Volvo's things for its own use, otherwise it would only destroy Volvo. Li Shufu first let a group of core members of Geely go to Volvo, and then let some core members of Volvo come to Geely, from design concept to quality control, so Geely's corporate culture has also been improved. Lectra, a sub-brand born by both parties, is a good example.

In the past, the engine was a short board of Geely, and the power difference of 1.8T was high in fuel consumption. Fortunately, Geely's assembly technology and NVH are very good. Just like Job, it can also occupy a place in the SUV field. But now some models have used Volvo's engine, and the last short board has been made up. For example, the newly listed Geely Xingrui uses the same 2.0T engine as Volvo, and the price is only about 654.38+0.2 million.

In addition, its sub-brand Ke Ling enjoys a lifetime warranty like Hongqi.

Great Wall: H6 conquers the world, and science and technology sit on the mountain and watch the tiger fight.

In the early years, Haval H6' s performance was not excellent, its power was average and its fuel consumption was not low, but its leather was durable. Just in time to catch up with the popularity of domestic SUV models, H6 took off at the tuyere with its good appearance and stable quality. H6 has been the number one seller for more than ten years. In order to keep the title of SUV sales champion, Haval often sells dozens of models in one room. What it wants is this herding effect of consumers.

In the past, the Great Wall sold well because of its accurate positioning and marketing, and now its product strength has also improved qualitatively. The lemon platform, which took five years and cost 20 billion yuan to build, has made a qualitative change in the Great Wall, and this change is still in the process of fermentation. Lemon platform includes 438 basic modules, 1 13 standard modules, which has the expansibility of covering A0, A, B, C and D models. The performance of the traditional seven-speed dual clutch is almost perfect, and the world's first nine-speed dual clutch is just around the corner.

In addition, the off-road special tank platform is also worth looking forward to. Tank 300 hasn't sold its first fire yet, and it is called four-wheel drive and three locks, which is very playable. WEY series, a high-end brand, has been competing with Lectra, and its product strength has far exceeded that of joint venture brands at the same level. At present, it has also introduced a five-year lifetime warranty for the whole vehicle and engine gearbox.

H6 can be regarded as the benchmark of domestic automobile quality. Let's look at the complaints from Chezhi.com. In the past year, H6' s complaints about SUVs ranked only ninth, even lower than those of joint ventures such as Fangrong, Hacker, Tiguan, CX4 and Qi Jun. The statistics here are the absolute number of complaints. The larger the sales volume, the larger the base. Haval H6 has been the sales champion for more than ten years in a row, with the largest market share. However, there were only 372 complaints in the whole year, and most of them were minor faults, which had nothing to do with the three major parts. It can be seen that the quality of H6 is reliable, far exceeding the recognized leather and durable Japanese cars.

BYD: the king of new energy field, the first domestic car in the future.

If you agree that new energy vehicles are the future trend, then BYD will be the first domestically produced vehicle in the future.

In fact, this has been reflected in the stock market value. BYD's market value exceeds 500 billion, ranking fourth in the world, second only to Tesla, Volkswagen and Toyota. Now it is the first domestic car.

From a technical point of view, Xiaoyun engine with 43% thermal efficiency is the most mass-produced car in the world at present, which is equal to Mazda's Chuangchi Blue Sky. Sandian technology is unique in the world, DM3.0 technology, and the Qin Plus super hybrid to be listed next year is DM4.0, which is at least two generations ahead of other car companies. The acceleration of 100 kilometers is 7.9S In the case of power loss, the fuel consumption per 100 kilometers can still be 3.8L. It is said that the price is the level of ordinary fuel joint venture vehicles, which is simply a blow to dimensionality reduction!

In the field of batteries, BYD has 100% independent R&D, design and production capacity. Blade battery safety is leading in the industry, and its bulk density is greatly improved. In the field of motor, the highest efficiency of permanent magnet synchronous motor reaches 96%, which makes Dynasty series new energy vehicles have the same performance as sports cars. In terms of electronic control, the IGBT chip independently developed is already 4.0.

From the three parts of the fuel vehicle to the design of new energy batteries, motors and even ECU, BYD does not need manual hands. We always say overtaking in corners, overtaking in corners. In fact, BYD has already done it. If domestic cars are the first, BYD deserves it.

As far as the current situation is concerned, Geely is currently a well-deserved domestic leader, but BYD should be the biggest winner for other manufacturers to follow up. Whoever invests heavily in independent research and development will get the highest return, and the proportion of new energy vehicles will increase in the future. Naturally, BYD's advantages will also increase. After five years, the ranking of car companies will definitely be reshuffled.

First of all, thank you for the invitation. At present, domestic cars are ok, Chang 'an, Great Wall, Geely, Chery and Hongqi. Who will be the first domestic car in the future? In fact, there is not much doubt about the answer. Personally, I think it should be a red flag. You can also refuel in Chang 'an. As for the single products of the Great Wall, basically only SUVs can arrange production. Personally, I think Geely has never been optimistic (I don't like it), and Chery is definitely hopeless. I won't analyze the details, I know everything I know.

Personally, I think Geely or the Great Wall will be the first domestic car in the future.

There is no doubt that Geely Automobile is currently the sales champion of China's own brand passenger cars, and it has been the sales champion of China's own brand for three consecutive years. Geely is also fruitful, and it is the first manufacturer to achieve the production and sales of passenger cars exceeding 6,543,800+million.

The product layout of Geely Automobile is also very reasonable, including cars, SUVs, MPVs, new energy and high-end models. Representative models include Job, Borui, Xingrui, Emgrand and high-end models.

Geely is also the car company with the highest sales volume of domestic car brands at present, with data support. Let's take a look at the manufacturer's sales results of1-1released by the association in June. We can see that Geely Automobile has exceeded 1 10,000 vehicles this year, ranking fourth among manufacturers, followed by FAW-Volkswagen, SAIC-Volkswagen and SAIC-GM, all of which are automobile groups. Geely has not fallen behind in the contest with joint venture brand manufacturers.

Thanks to Volvo's blessing, Geely Automobile has made great progress.

Why do I say that Great Wall Motor may become the first in China? Great Wall Motor has always been known for its "steadiness". It doesn't have many cards in its hand, but it plays well. Although the sword is biased, mainly SUV, it leads a trend. Moreover, the products of Great Wall Motor have a good reputation.

Of course, Changan Automobile and Chery Automobile also have the possibility of catching up.

Red flag, because the red flag brand is irreplaceable by other brands.

The first domestic car, let me make a bold prediction.

Traditional car enterprise: Chang 'an

Don't spray in a hurry. Changan automobile has good quality and good service. I have been to Chang 'an stores in all prefecture-level cities in Henan and bought cars with customers in Zhengzhou, Luohe, Zhoukou, Puyang, Anyang, Xuchang and Kaifeng. The service is quite good. In contrast, although the Great Wall is good, it always feels a little less, and Geely is also very enthusiastic, but Geely's car-making concept and technology may not be the first. Not to mention Chery's My relatives and I bought a car to go to war. Fortunately, we are all rural, and we have to bear the pain to buy a good price for the car. BYD won't talk about it, specializing in new energy. As for JAC and GAC passenger cars and SAIC passenger cars, I don't think there is a chance, so I won't talk about their service attitude.

Building a car is definitely the first technology, but selling a car is not necessarily the case. As a Chery powder, I also think that Chery is unlikely to reproduce its previous glory.

Like FAW and Dongfeng, do you believe that the national football team can play in the World Cup? They are more difficult than this.

New energy: BYD

Against the fierceness of Wang Chuanfu, BYD is very likely to reach the top. Whether it is the latest blade battery, self-developed chip or self-developed system, it continues BYD's tradition.

In terms of traditional car companies, Ai An of GAC performed well, but faced with the mountains of BYD.

In terms of new forces in building cars, Weilai is positioned too high and is unlikely to become the boss. Tucki, ideal and so on, not to mention. Nezha, zero run, etc. , and Euler, Chery new energy relations are good. As for Chang 'an New Energy, well, Wuling can run faster than you. Geely new energy is still in chaos. How about Beiqi New Energy? It's a pity that the cheating thief is cool.

Although I don't know the performance of other brands of cars, it's not easy to evaluate. However, I will briefly talk about the distribution of plus sub-tops at the beginning of my 1 1 month. Just opened for a month, there is nothing wrong with it, just one word, "cool", one word, "comfortable", one feeling, "convenience", one word evaluation and "value".

At present, in China, the more promising domestic cars are Haval, Changan, Chery, BYD, Geely and other automobile manufacturers. Who will be the first domestic car? Just compare their quality, sales volume and cost performance. At present, Haval series has the highest sales volume, Chery automobile has excellent quality, BYD automobile has bright prospects for new energy development, and Changan automobile has power and brand advantages. After all, there is a shadow of military industry, and Geely pays attention to design and publicity. In my opinion, the more promising cars in the future should be Chery, BYD and Changan.

Geely, there is no doubt.

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