What are the two basic forms of capitalist wages?

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1, if you go to the moon, will it be enough to give you 1 100 million dollars? Obviously, this is not the case. Dollars are useless on the moon.

What does the dollar stand for?

Computers are useful, but if dollars can be exchanged for computers, is dollars useful? Of course not, because it has no practical use for people's lives except exchange. According to the classical viewpoints of politics, economics and economics, the exchange of dollars and computers is therefore a value exchange and an equivalent value exchange. So is the dollar equal to the computer? If you think that dollars can be exchanged for computers, it is obviously equal. But back to our previous question, can you get the same amount of dollars for being alone on the moon, even a little air, water and rice?

Therefore, in fact, computers and dollars are not equal, and only under the wage system can they be equal. In addition, computers are naturally worthless, and only in exchange can they be considered valuable with the US dollar, that is, the theory of value is actually to find a reason for their exchange (this analysis is completely in line with Marx's philosophical point of view, that is, what philosophy needs to do is only to help understand the world, not to make up a world, such as the meaning, knowledge and form of religion).

To sum up: value is not equal to exchange value, value is the product of society and only exists in exchange.

2. Keynes believed that the root cause of the economic crisis was "insufficient consumption". For example, there is always a product with a value of 10000 in the market, which means there is no 10000 yuan to buy it. Of course, you should know that there are always rich people, but there are few, so although money can be many times more than others, it is impossible for people to spend many times more on them, right?

Therefore, workers can't buy all the products they produce.

So are workers' wages reasonable? Now some people say that it is reasonable for capitalists to invest and earn. But the problem is that workers and employers actually exchange relations, and labor exchanges money. In the end, capitalists get goods, while workers get wages as money, but as we have explained before, value is not equal to use value. And even if you know at a glance that your salary is not equal to the market price of the goods you produce, you can't protest, because you have no means of production, and you are the first to die when you leave home.

With the introduction of industrial assembly line, it is more difficult to see whether they are equivalent. Because now everyone can only have one production action, the technical improvement of production efficiency has inadvertently completely obliterated any comparison between value and use value.

Besides, since value is not equal to use value, it actually means that the capital invested by capital companies can't produce any goods as use value at all. Even the input machine, because it is also a currency exchange, still uses value, not value, as a tool to produce goods.

Visible, in the traditional capital standard-subjective-justice system, industrial capital is actually a tool to strip and cut workers.

With the development of science and technology, this situation has obviously changed. The first is information technology. With the appearance of information technology, people generally think that the theory of labor ~ movement ~ price ~ value ~ has collapsed in the new environment, but the theory of labor ~ movement ~ price ~ value ~ is not Marx's view. As Marx pointed out, with the collapse of labor ~ movement ~ price ~ value ~ capital ~ ~ In addition, the progress of this technology will make simple manual labor a subsidiary of the machine, and the working conditions will gradually deteriorate because of the depreciation of manual labor itself. The creation of knowledge, as a kind of labor, will be greatly restricted because the whole social situation is deteriorating according to capital and logic (because scientific research is negative after all and needs a lot of investment). For example, computers are developed by the United States, the United States and the military, and then given to private individuals and companies? Another example is the collapse of teaching and education around us. ), the so-called limited productivity.

The above is just my personal opinion, and some of them are not very mature. The original source of this view is Marx's works.

The forms of wages, including hourly wages, piece-rate wages, bonuses and benefits, are not very clear.