I recently heard the name of a crosstalk performer: Degang Guo. -Who is he? Why didn't you see it on the silver screen again?

From 65438 to 0996, Degang Guo from Tianjin formed a folk crosstalk club-Deyun Society, which performed at Tianqiao Music Theater every weekend, and the ticket price was only 20 yuan. 10 years have passed, the audience is increasing, and it is more and more difficult to book seats. In the winter of 2005, Degang Guo was suddenly sought after by many media and became a smash hit in Beijing. On June 65438+ 101,June 12, and 25th, Degang Guo led Deyun Society to hold its first performance in the People's Liberation Army Opera House since it opened in Beijing in June. As a result, one ticket was hard to find and the venue was full. On the evening of June 12, the performance was rewarded 22 times, with more than 200,000 yuan. On the China Crosstalk Network, netizens call Degang Guo Guo Meng, who has the ability to inherit and interpret traditional cross talk, while fans who like him call themselves "tightrope walkers".

What is the reason for Degang Guo's popularity? How long will the audience pursue him? What influence does he have on contemporary cross talk? Recently, this newspaper invited several senior cultural figures who love the art of cross talk. Most of them are Degang Guo's faithful "tightrope walkers", and each family has its own opinions on the "Degang Guo phenomenon" and the problems in the development of contemporary cross talk.

■ Degang Guo is a person.

He was born in 1973, and his ancestral home is Tianjin. At the age of eight, he worshipped Gao Qinghai to learn storytelling, and then he studied crosstalk with the famous crosstalk artist Chang Baofeng. In 2005, he joined the Railway Art Troupe and studied Peking Opera, Pingxi and Hebei Bangzi with Hou Yuewen as his teacher.

From 65438 to 0995, he began to wander in Beijing, performing traditional crosstalk in the theater for a long time, and was proficient in more than 600 old jokes. 1996 Established Deyun Society Crosstalk Troupe, which has partnered with famous artists such as Fan Zhenyu and Zhang Wenshun. Jokes that are often performed are: tying dolls, learning radio, finding a church meeting, meeting at the White House, Japanese clappers, reporting names, uncovering tiles, wives giving their sons, Latin films, awls, sheep climbing trees, etc. They were excavated and preserved.

Degang Guo initiated the era of dramatic cross talk?

Huang Jisu (playwright, researcher of China Academy of Social Sciences)

The most vivid cross talk is improvisation, and Degang Guo's cross talk is done. After listening to his cross talk, I feel that the country has produced talents. This is because there are many bad habits in old-fashioned cross talk, such as seniority. Although he is an apprentice, his ability can be compared with that of Hou. Hou created a new situation of cross talk, refined the old cross talk of Tianqiao style, and at the same time reflected the events of new China, thus making cross talk enter TV and radio. After that, the cross talk continued this trend. By the time of reform and opening up, cross talk had reached a peak, and its satirical function had reached an unprecedented height. Then crosstalk entered the Spring Festival Evening, which made crosstalk reach a peak from low to high. When it entered the Spring Festival party, we found that crosstalk had come to an end. And watching the cross talk, people suddenly feel that the best cross talk has arrived at the theater, as if everything had started all over again, which is just the opposite of Hou's direction (the best cross talk at that time was on TV). In this sense, in the whole system, what Degang Guo is doing now may be an epoch-making thing. If Deyun Society succeeds, it may be a sign that this art has left a form covering the whole country. Television is aimed at the whole country, but the theater is that part of the people, which will form many small and elegant cultures. Aroma lives well among some people.

But there are conditions to form this situation: 1, inherit the tradition well, and 2, enter contemporary life. It's not easy to get the two together. The traditional folk art of any Chinese nation has a question of how to combine tradition with modernity. I think Degang Guo still has potential in this respect. For example, he has mastered some traditions well. But these wonderful things he has mastered may not be completely integrated with the background brought by different cultures of our audience. Not fully integrated, he needs to continue to integrate, continue to educate the audience and try to get close to the audience. In addition, his own conditions are good: 1, good training, a lot of things to master, 2, good personal talent, 3, good mentality. He integrated his mentality into life and practice. He has been in the theater for ten years, and the quantitative change should reach the qualitative change.

Pursuit is hope to play a good role in the construction of cross talk.

Qin Zheng (Director of Beijing TV Station)

In the first half of last year, Degang Guo was not as hot as it is now. In the autumn of 2005, it suddenly caught fire, a bit like a super girl, which has a lot to do with media propaganda, because many media people are "walking a tightrope". However, when we are used to listening to TV cross talk, we suddenly find that the content, skills and environment in the theater are quite good, so we are willing to hold a corner that we think is worth holding. This is a matter of mentality. In addition, as Mr. Huang Jisu said, Degang Guo is sought after by us, not because of how he is, but because we hope it will play a good role in our future cultural construction, art construction, or cross talk construction.

Drama culture has broken the monistic TV imperialism culture.

The creation of cross talk is a very difficult thing. Degang Guo's crosstalk is good, but some of it is not so good, so we praise him, but don't kill him. However, he is not afraid of killing. He "grew up" in an environment of killing. In other words, Degang Guo grew up in the market. The significance of what he did is that he is a kind of theater culture, and his appearance can drive other theater cultures in the future. It doesn't matter how much money he earns. It is important that someone go to see it. If so, it will be very different in the future. For example, people who often go to this theater form a small culture in communication with other audiences, and they are responsible for maintaining cross talk. Other artistic styles can also be developed. For the culture of our time, it can be said that multiculturalism has broken the single TV imperialist culture. The first time was the success of the market.

Degang Guo's crosstalk itself is a good standard: the tradition is well inherited, developed and transformed. The combination of inheritance and continuation is particularly good. He solved the needs of the audience as well as his own. He wants to make money to support some people. With the development of economy, the market may gradually become orderly, but it may take a little longer for our generation, but we hope to form a virtuous circle of the market as soon as possible. There is also a very simple reason for Degang Guo's success, that is, there are not many cultures we can contact, but there are too few, and our choices are too few.

Crosstalk is more likely to form a standard culture in the theater.

In addition, there is another problem that culture may not adapt to all situations. It is uncomfortable to see crosstalk performers forget their words on TV, but the same thing will make people laugh in the theater and the audience will find it very interesting. The audience and performers on the stage can produce * * * sounds in the theater, but they don't exist on TV, so this culture is particularly easy to form in the theater. It can promote the development of theater culture, form a diverse space, and revive many things in cultural traditions.

It can be said that the return of cross talk to the theater is at least a promising thing, and TV may not bring much hope. We have been engaged in television for many years. Even if the specialization of channels can play some role, it is not as good as the theater, because the media of art are different in different environments, and performing in a small theater is completely different from performing in a big theater. Another disadvantage of TV crosstalk is to let the audience know how to use the baggage, so there is no mystery, and there are many people in the theater. In addition, there is a time limit for TV cross talk, just like watching a fast-forward movie. Crosstalk is easy to form a standard culture in the theater, cultivate a part of the theater audience and form a certain aesthetic.

Degang Guo came out of the market.

Zhang Lixian (publisher, planner)

It turns out that crosstalk, a joke, can be said to be more than ten years. Those crosstalk actors have no worries about food and clothing. What they care about is to evaluate several actors and develop the inertia of artistic creation. Degang Guo's slogan is "no baggage".

Therefore, while accepting the market test, he constantly revised his creation and performance and accepted tempering. Otherwise, they have no market and no audience. Planning cross talk kills people, and market cross talk feeds people. Degang Guo's success can be said to come from his understanding, but more importantly, his diligence. There was only one audience in his first cross talk, and he had to ensure that there were two audiences in the second, otherwise, he couldn't live. Now many crosstalk performers can't catch up with him because he has 10 years of experience and can't catch up with him.

In addition, the social demand for culture is also a condition for their survival. Teacher Huang Jisu also said that Degang Guo's cross talk came from the market, and China used to be a planned system, so people in the original system probably had different views on the human body in the market. Degang Guo has been to Beijing many times, and his success is hard-won. With his own efforts and wisdom, he finally succeeded. After the reform and opening-up, many people turned from contempt for China traditional culture to bargaining, but few people really love China traditional culture. This love is based on respect for every detail, every turning point and every fragment, and they poured a kind of enthusiasm into him. Later, although the concept changed, the actual action did not change. Then, I suddenly found that Degang Guo had been here for ten years, guarding these things. People like Degang Guo have the spirit of modern intellectuals. Mentally, he is not so decadent. "

Guo easily inherited the tradition of crosstalk culture.

Justin (playwright, former artistic director of North Theater)

Degang Guo's success is also due to his credit. He can share joys and sorrows with his partner instead of thinking about how to get rich first and then join others. He is the kind of person who can fill his stomach with a steamed bun and make you eat noodles. Crosstalk artists in Taiwan Province Province have been studying cross talk in mainland China, such as those in Taiwan Province Province and Feng, who have been reading Lao She's books and are familiar with the scripts of Sui and Tang Dynasties. Degang Guo has better conditions. He has the advantage of getting the moon first, so it is easier to inherit the tradition of China crosstalk culture. Moreover, he is constantly reading all kinds of books about cross talk.

In addition, the development of drama theater also provides some conditions for the development of Degang Guo crosstalk. Many people Degang Guo contacts are engaged in drama or watching drama, which will inevitably have an impact on him.

Degang Guo revived cross talk.

Li Du (editor of People's Literature Publishing House)

I am a tightrope walker. I used to go to the theater to watch Kunqu opera or listen to local operas, and listen to Beijing opera on TV. Later, I went to listen to Degang Guo's cross talk every week and thought his success was due to his personal charm. Crosstalk should be appreciated in terms of elegance and vulgarity. In Degang Guo, there are blue-collar workers and white-collar workers in the audience. It can also be said that crosstalk has revived here. In addition, listening to his cross talk can also help you learn to write articles, and the humor in cross talk can be used for reference in writing.

Degang Guo's cross talk made me feel so kind to all kinds of folk arts for the first time, and made me feel that I am really a China native, just like things at home. My father, my mother, my grandfather and my grandmother all let me touch the things handed down from home. I didn't touch them before, but then I suddenly reached an age, or they let me touch these things to some extent, so I want to continue to touch them in the future.

Degang Guo's popularity is a test for him.

Shi Hang (playwright)

The opportunity brought by one person.

In the past, mascots were all domestic animals, but suddenly they were changed into wild animals, which made everyone feel very fresh. The appearance of Degang Guo crosstalk is the same, but for wild animals, being a mascot is not necessarily lucky. Because he will lose his life, his cross talk has become a fashion. For Degang Guo, it must be a test, not luck.

In the past, cross talk was about TV stars, such as Hou Yuewen. Suddenly, it was nice to listen to Degang Guo's cross talk in the theater. However, it is not necessarily a good thing that Degang Guo is so sought after. This must be a test for him, not luck. There are many similarities between crosstalk and dramatic revival. The significance of Degang Guo this time is that he is a leading figure, a ZTE nation, and the opportunity brought by one person, not the opportunity brought by the change of a great era. The significance of Degang Guo's cross talk lies in that he is talking about the real joys and sorrows in the secular world. There are too many literary forms for us to explore the real joys and sorrows in the secular world.

The greatest benefit is an enlightenment.

In addition, the biggest advantage of listening to his cross talk is an enlightenment. People care about their emotions and know what makes them happy and what makes them unhappy. Let everyone feel that their emotions are meaningful. Degang Guo's success has three points: first, talent; Second, the opportunity for actual combat exercises has been continuing; Third, young and able to withstand all kinds of ups and downs. Liang Zuo's contribution to crosstalk is that he can bring some short stories from the Soviet Union, which can also be found in Degang Guo. He didn't take them directly like reading congratulatory messages, but chewed them up, which shows that cross talk can learn from other art forms when it is clear and sharp, which was rare in the past. Degang Guo himself said that after the horse left, who would care about our petty calculations, grievances, cowardice and fantasies, and who would speak for us? In addition, Degang Guo's cross talk has an epic feeling in his bones, and he has a small ambition, such as his eight major undertakings. Therefore, his changes to cross talk are not only new, he is not only changing for the effect of his cross talk, he is trying to make cross talk not spend this era in vain.

Degang Guo has a special number in mind.

I'm not too worried about Degang Guo getting killed. I think he understands very well. It is very important that he has witnessed the killing of many young artists in the literary and art circles. He already knows what he can do after being praised by the media and mainstream culture, just like Ginsburg became a university professor in the 1970s. Really, all those rebellious leaders really gave them rows of seats on the sofa. People sitting in the history of literature are shorter than themselves. Degang Guo won't eat this YaBaKui. How you award him has nothing to do with him. He knows that it won't be long before the paper turns red, and face-to-face air transmission is like germs. He still believes in face-to-face things, so he won't make too much confusion.

Li Meng (playwright)

Dig up old jokes and add new burdens

Degang Guo has his personality charm, and there are reasons why he has to fight for breath, but anyway, after a long time, the most important thing is that the performance quality is better. I think his contribution is that he dug up a lot of old jokes, but at the same time, he has to adapt to the market. His advantage is that he has added some new burdens, adapted to the market and attracted the audience. He and Hou and Ma had the same idea at first: after the reform, there were old jokes.

What is worrying now is that I hope Degang Guo is not just a phenomenon, it will be very popular for a while, and after that, it will become a laughing stock. Degang Guo will still have a regular audience in the future. I believe his cross talk is a very special and unpopular thing, but it still has his long-term vitality in it.

■ Degang Guo talks about cross talk

● Revitalize cross talk by yourself? Impossible, just play a deterrent role.

There are various ways of entertainment and leisure, and TV, movies and bars are highly competitive.

Why do people listen to me, Degang Guo? In the final analysis, it is a matter of growth.

Conflicts with my peers are inevitable, but I have never been the enemy of the so-called mainstream cross talk.

As long as you like, I can always talk cross talk-until I die.

● Talent, interest and hard work are indispensable.

● It should be half a psychologist to say cross talk. They should lead the audience and don't have psychological barriers with the audience.

Come to me on the Spring Festival Evening, and I will promise. But there must be a premise for me to go on the show-the audience must love the cross talk I want to say, not the patchwork program! I don't want to be a fool or a slave to be on TV.

■ Degang Guo's Crosstalk Quotations

● This Hangzi, I am doing it!

● Where is the reasoning?

I want to kiss my life!

How much coke is this?

● Rogues know martial arts, and no one can stop them.

He is very important in this matter.

● A pile of heart protectors has been plucked, and it is still a fish!

Low armpit is cumin flavor. ...

● Does the master want a plate?

When everyone is finished, don't go. I'll treat you to dinner ... whoever goes will pay. ...

● How many stops is Tieling from the United States?

The foot of my bed is shining with such bright light. Is it frosty already? Looking up, I found it was moonlight, and I was Degang Guo.

Your shameless appearance is very similar to my charm.

A steak, no beef, I love onions, put more onions!

The house where I live is full of holes. When it rains, it will kill me. It's raining outside, it's raining outside. Sometimes it rains heavily and the whole family takes shelter in the streets. ...

● One shoulder is high and one shoulder is low, and the mind is long and armpit.