What's the difference between Taiji Chen Chuan Formula 8 1 and 83?

I'll try to give you an answer ~ There are 83 types of teacher Ma Hong, 83 types of Chen Jiagou, and 8 1 type adapted by Hong on the basis of the old pattern of science and education in Chen Fa. Mr. He Shugan, Mr. Hong's big disciple, described his style like this:

It is very different from the old Tai Ji Chuan old rack in practice and has a unique style. Thousands of people have studied and practiced this set of boxing, forming a genre. Of course, this boxing is based on the teachings of Chen Fa Ke Shizu. After 30 years of study and experiment, Mr. Hong has adapted it, which embodies the basic principles of Chen Taiji's biography everywhere. The names of the moves remain basically the same, but the practices and functions of each move are quite different from the original ones. Take the first king kong rammed clam as an example, and compare them, we can see their differences.

The original practice method of the first King Kong rammer cymbals is as follows: (The preparation method is omitted) The first action: the palms of both hands are facing each other, one shoulder wide apart, and the hands are raised horizontally forward, with the height at shoulder height. At the same time, squat down, take small steps and look straight ahead. The second action: turn right 45 degrees and tilt your chest to the right and front; At the same time, keep your hands at arm's length, twist your right hand in reverse, and draw an arc to the right with your left hand until you stop at the back half foot of your right shoulder. At the same time, the eyes are flexible and look at the left hand; At the same time of body movement, the right foot swings 45 degrees with the heel as the axis, the center of gravity shifts to the right leg, and the right thigh is parallel to the ground by squatting; At the same time, the left foot passes through the inside of the right foot, sticks to the inside of the root of the left foot, and extends forward to the left. The left knee bends slightly, and the left toe falls to the ground, pointing to the right front oblique angle. The distance between the feet is two and a half to three shoulders wide, forming a left stride. The third action: keep your body at the original height, turn left 45 degrees, lean forward slightly, and keep your chest in front; The left hand is wrapped in reverse, down the arc, and stops half a foot before the chest. Tilt your palm to the right and your middle finger to the right. At the same time, the right hand also goes down along the arc, stopping on the right side of the chest, with the palm forward and the middle finger obliquely downward to the right; Eyes handy, look at the fingertips of the left middle finger; When the body rotates, the left toe swings outward, pointing straight ahead, the left knee arches, the thigh is parallel to the ground, and the calf is vertical to the ground; Keep your right foot still, bend your right knee slightly forward, and do a left lunge. The fourth action: turn left about 15 degrees, with the chest still facing straight ahead; Eyes handy, turn to the front; Turn around, at the same time, the left hand continues to follow the arc, always leading forward to the chest, palm down, middle finger pointing to the right; At the same time, the right hand is surrounded. When operating, the middle finger is down, and it is also closed along the arc, close to the lower side of the left hand. The palm of your hand is angled backward and upward, the middle finger points at an oblique angle to the upper left, and your hands are crossed. The left foot does not move, and the left knee moves forward slightly; The left hand lifts the right foot, sticks to the inside of the left foot along the inner arc, and moves diagonally to the right front, and the toes stop, forming a right front imaginary step. The fifth action: turn right about 30 degrees, and tilt your chest slightly to the right; Eyes still look straight ahead; Left hand down to navel, palm up, middle finger pointing right; Right hand into a fist, up to eye level, half a foot away from the eye, fist heart up, fist eyes looking straight ahead; The left leg does not move; Raise your right knee, flush with your crotch, buckle your toes and point to the lower front corner to form a left independent step. The sixth action: turn left about 15 degrees, keep the original height unchanged, and face straight ahead; Eyes still look straight ahead; The left hand does not move; The right fist turns left with you, falls on the left palm, with the fist heart facing up and the fist eye looking straight ahead; The left leg does not move; Turn left with your right foot and land at the same time. The distance between your feet is one shoulder wide, forming a small step. The seventh action: the left hand is still, and the right fist is wrapped from the palm of your hand to eye level, and the rest is the same as the fifth action. The eighth action: Like the sixth action, only when the fist falls to the left palm will you clap your hands, and at the same time, your right foot will make a sound as the right fist falls, and at the same time, you will breathe backwards and exhale through your nose to make a "hum" sound, with your abdomen slightly protruding and your whole body relaxed. (You can also lift your flat hip with your right knee when you punch right, and your left foot will also be lifted, and your feet will touch the ground first and then touch the ground. When you punch your left palm with your right fist, your right foot will make a loud noise. )

Master Hong's training method is as follows:

The first action: look straight ahead, turn left slightly, hold your chest forward, turn your legs left, and bend your knees into a small horse stance; At the same time, the right elbow does not leave the ribs, and the right hand is wrapped around the inner arc, and the chest is turned obliquely to the heart socket. The palm side leans to the left, and the middle finger points to the left front oblique angle. At the same time, the left hand turns from the outer arc to the front of the chin, the left elbow is relaxed, the palm is tilted to the right, and the middle finger is tilted to the right.

The second action: eyes still look straight ahead; Slightly turn to the right about 15 degrees, and slightly tilt the chest to the right; The right leg is closed, the bow and knee are relaxed, the crotch collapses with the heel as the axis, and the toe of the right foot swings out 45 degrees; At the same time, the left leg takes the left toe as the axis, and the left foot root rotates at an oblique angle of about 45 degrees to the left to form a right small step; Turn right with you and twist your right hand in the opposite direction. The upper grasp of the middle finger is in line with the mouth as the elbow rotates, about 4 inches away from the mouth. The palm side is inclined to the left and front, and the middle finger is inclined to the right and front. At the same time, the left hand becomes smooth and tangled in the same place, the shoulder is slack, the elbow collapses, and the wrist collapses and rolls out. The palm of your hand is tilted to the right, the middle finger points to the left front and the upper oblique angle, and the distance between your hands is one arm wide.

The third action: the direction of the eyes remains unchanged, the body continues to turn right for 30-40 degrees, and the chest leans to the right; The right leg is still around, hunched, and the knee is slightly low; The left leg steps out around the knee, the toes hook through the inside of the right foot, and the inner arc of the foot root is ground off at the left front oblique angle, about two and a half shoulders away from the right foot, forming a big left lunge; While turning around, the right hand is still winding away from the outer upper right arc and turning it out to the right. The height is flush with the eyes, about one foot away from the eyes, the palm is inclined to the right, and the middle finger points to the left front and upper oblique angle; At the same time, the left hand keeps an arm's distance from the right hand around the right upper arc, turns to the right front oblique angle, the height is flush with the nose, the palm leans to the right, and the middle finger points to the left front oblique angle.

The fourth action: the direction of the eyes remains unchanged; Turn left about 30 degrees, and the chest is still inclined to the right and front; The right leg becomes tangled, the knee bends slightly and moves forward slightly; The left leg becomes tangled, the knee bends slightly, and the crotch collapses and falls on the toes, pointing straight ahead, forming a big left position; At the same time, turn your right hand, loosen your shoulders and sink your elbows, collapse and grind off the lower front arc, and turn to the right front of the navel about one foot and two inches, with the palm of your hand inclined to the left front and the middle finger inclined to the right front; At the same time, the left hand turns to reverse rotation, with the wrist as the axis, and the elbow bends downward and inward to the chest, half a foot away from the heart, the palm of the hand tilts to the right, and the middle finger tilts to the right. Always keep your hands away.

The fifth action: the direction of the eyes remains unchanged; Continue to turn left for about 30 degrees, and the chest is slightly inclined to the left front; The left leg is still hugging, the crotch collapses, the knees are bent, the left foot root is the axis, and the toes swing slightly to the left; The right foot is still reversed, and the knees are raised. The right foot touches the ground to the right through the left foot, and the toes point forward, forming a right front imaginary step; At the same time, the left hand is still around the front arc and turns to six inches in front of the chin. Tilt the palm to the right and the middle finger to the right. At the same time, the right hand is still around, the elbow is attached to the right rib, the elbow pushes the hand upward, and the upper collar of the middle finger turns to the lower side of the left palm. The two wrists cross into an oblique cross, the palm of the hand leans to the left, and the middle finger points to the left front and upper oblique angle.

The sixth action: the eyes are still looking straight ahead; Turn right slightly about 35 degrees, and keep your chest straight ahead; At the same time, the left leg turns into reverse winding, the knees collapse, the crotch collapses, and the left toe turns right with you, pointing straight ahead; At the same time, the right leg is wound, the knee is lifted to the crotch on the inner upper arc, the right palm is always parallel to the ground, and the toes are not upturned, forming a left independent step; At the same time, the left hand will encircle, the shoulder will relax, the elbow will sink, the inner arc will turn to the front of the cup, the palm side will tilt to the right, and the middle finger will tilt to the right and front; At the same time, the right hand is still around the elbow, and the fist is clenched in turn with the little finger collar force, and the collar is rotated from the upper side of the left wrist to half a foot above the left palm, with the fist center to the right and the fist eye to the right.

The seventh measure: the eye method is unchanged, looking straight ahead; Turn left slightly for about 20 degrees, with your chest still facing straight ahead; The left leg is entangled and the left foot does not move; The right leg turns into reverse winding, and the lower right foot arcs in the right direction, and falls on the right side of the left foot at the shoulder-width distance, forming a small regular stance. When landing, it can also make the sound of right boxing and left palm, and the whole body is loose and heavy; Turn left with you, and at the same time, the left hand continues to circle from the middle of the navel to the front of the navel, that is, it turns backwards, with the palm slightly tilted back and the middle finger slightly tilted to the right. At the same time, the right fist flips up and down and sticks (or hits) the roots of the outer little finger and the ring finger in the center of the left palm, that is, it becomes smaller and winds along, with the center of the fist inclined at the right rear and the eye inclined at the right front.

These are the two different training methods of the first king kong clam, both of which are the same, so I won't go into details one by one. As can be seen from the first formula, the fineness and intention of each movement modified by Mr. Hong are limited by space, so I can't elaborate on the offensive and defensive functions of the two training methods in detail. However, the revised training method is based on the principle of "how to use it", and every movement embodies ingenious offensive and defensive functions. When experts compare with each other, they will find that the revised training method is exquisitely designed and much more detailed than the original training method. This is a new development and creation made by Mr. Hong on the basis of learning from the master and absorbing the essence of other kinds of boxing through his half-life efforts. It is also a comprehensive embodiment of his martial arts thought.

Because of the different training methods, the revised boxing has formed its own style and charm, that is, exquisite and light, subtle and subtle, meticulous and lingering, natural and graceful, showing its maiden show and containing diamond strength; Inadvertently, it is grand and magnificent, characterized by attacking with details. This is the difference between style and original practice. Some people say that "Mr. Hong's New Routine" is small and meticulous, and it is not developed enough. "It seems that this is the style of this boxing, but it is only superficial. The actual teacher requires scholars to "develop first, then be meticulous", step by step, from large to small, from coarse to fine, deeper and deeper, and gradually achieve "no mistakes". So "small" is not its characteristic, but "exquisiteness and delicacy" is its characteristic. From the comparison of the former two training methods, we can perceive their differences in characteristics. The former is big and powerful; The latter is small and moderate, exquisite and light, and requires "no mistakes". Because new and complex methods have different trends and functions, they have different style characteristics. It is by no means a deviation, mistake or tampering of not learning the original routine, nor an increase or decrease of the original moves, but an organic refining, processing and transformation of the original correct practice method according to the basic principles and laws of Chen Tai Ji Chuan. Known as the Hong-style Tai Ji Chuan, it is not only because it has its own style characteristics, but also convenient for scholars to distinguish this set of Tai Ji Chuan from the original practice.

This set of boxing is called Hong Tai Ji Chuan because Mr. Hong is a master. He creatively developed Tai Ji Chuan's theory and method, raised Tai Ji Chuan's theory and technology to a new height, pointed out the exploration direction for Tai Ji Chuan learners, clarified some confused understandings and corrected some incorrect technologies. For example:

1. As for the eye method of Taiji Chuan, it used to be "eye luck". Starting from the practical needs, he thinks it should be changed to "focus on a fixed goal (the other party) based on the role of law, assuming the opponent's direction and taking the other party's vision as the standard". Because eyes are commands, you can pay attention to each other's changes. The teacher once said, "Looking into each other's eyes gives birth to strength, pays attention to each other's changes, and maintains its own balance, being soft outside and firm inside." He also pointed out that the eye method can also be divided into forward and backward; The visual direction is consistent with posture and footwork, and the visual direction is opposite to the direction in the process of body rotation and manipulation change. Eye method can also be divided into virtual and real, and the attentive person regards it as truth; Focus a little outward, and everything in the field of vision is hope and empty. This is a new technique applied by Master Hong in Taiji eye transmission.

2. About body posture: According to the principles of "waist as the axis" and "standing as the first level", he proposed that Tai Ji Chuan should achieve neutral balance, that is, no matter how the formula changes, his center of gravity must remain in the relative center of his whole body. The footwork remains the same, Yin Hui is still, and the body and waist can only rotate left and right, not back and forth. The displacement of the center of gravity only moves with the change of footwork. This was not stated in Tai Ji Chuan's Law in the past. Corrected the wrong training method of "all the center of gravity shifts to a certain leg", pointing out that the waist only rotates without revolution. To realize the three-dimensional spiral motion with the waist as the axis, the waist rotation amplitude should be large, but there is a certain limit, while the shoulder rotation amplitude should be small.

3. Regarding footwork, he first defined the front and back winding method of legs. It is pointed out that in the case that Changqiang point (coccyx) is slightly everted and the crotch is round, the legs are rotated left and right casually, pointing forward and backward; And generally speaking, the winding of the left and right legs is always carried out at the same time. Turn right, wrap the right leg along, rotate outward from the upper end of the inner side of the right thigh, and wrap it at the heel; At the same time, the left leg is wrapped in reverse, and the self-supporting heel rotates inward and winds up to the upper end of the left thigh. Turn left and vice versa. It is also pointed out that when the legs are wrapped in silk, the point where the knees are closed should be lifted in the toe direction, lifted in the positive direction and lowered in the opposite direction, and it is absolutely not allowed to swing left and right. Only in this way can we ensure the winding movement of the legs. This is too much.

When I went to coach Tai Chi Chuan, I never made clear the theoretical and legal issues.

4. In terms of techniques, he first put forward the forward rotation and reverse rotation of revolution, rotation and revolution; He gave a correct and detailed explanation of the positive and negative directions of rotation. The idea of revolution and rotation first began when 1950 taught me to draw a circle during the Spring Festival. One day before and after the tenth day of the first month, he taught me to circle in my living room. At that time, my father and Mr. Zhang Muyao, who taught me classics, were present. Originally, the circle that turns forward is called the outer circle, and the circle that turns backward is called the inner circle (I still called it after I arrived in Beijing). It is not called revolution or rotation. When learning to turn, the forearm often forgets to rotate or rotates at different speeds. In order to explain that the forearm has to be wound back and forth when drawing a circle by hand, the teacher watched several.

The globe in the world, if you understand it, explain it to me: "The pointer is round, just like the earth goes around the sun, and its trajectory is revolution;" When the hands and forearms are in orbit, they must rotate in opposite directions, just like the rotation of the earth. It is natural that the rotation degree of the hand and forearm should be properly matched with the revolution degree of the circle. Circles always droop at the tips of elbows. "Mr. Zhang said," Your teacher's metaphor is very second. The dharma master said, "It's easy to understand how to draw a circle with this metaphor in the future. Since then, the terms "revolution" and "rotation" have gradually spread. The names of "forward" and "reverse" probably begin with 1956.

After that. I remember 1958, when I returned to Jinan in the summer vacation, my teacher once said, "I think the names of external winding and internal winding are unscientific. Inner winding means reverse winding, and outer winding means forward winding. In fact, the outer circle includes the forward and reverse winding of the forearm, which is almost half a circle; The same is true for the inner ring. It is better to call it forward rotation and reverse rotation. " Regarding the operation of the hand, he clearly pointed out that when shooting, the hand leads the elbow and the elbow leads the shoulder out; When the hands are closed, the shoulders lead the elbows, and the elbows lead the hands back. The so-called "hand can't reach the elbow, and the elbow won't stop." No one has explicitly proposed this technology before.

5. Regarding the question of duality, he made a correct explanation, pointing out that the symptom of duality is that "the forehand and the front foot are the same reality", which corrected the mistake that some people interpreted duality as "the two feet are the same reality".

As for many modifications in details and innovations in techniques, I won't go into details one by one. The above points alone are enough to illustrate Hong's contribution to the development of Tai Ji Chuan law. His theory has been widely spread and absorbed by many kinds of boxing, which shows its far-reaching influence.