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The difference between eighty-five and eighty-eight Tai Ji Chuan.
The difference between eighty-five and eighty-eight Tai Ji Chuan.
The traditional Tai Ji Chuan 85 style is a classic routine of Yang Tai and Tai Ji Chuan, and people usually call it the 85-style Tai Ji Chuan. In order to meet the needs of mass fitness activities, the original widely circulated Tai Ji Chuan routines were sorted out in 1950s. Especially in the early 1960s, People's Sports Publishing House compiled the relevant Tai Ji Chuan routines into a book "Tai Ji Chuan Movement" for publication. Eighty-eight Tai Ji Chuan is one of Tai Ji Chuan routines.
The Eighty-Eight Style is basically derived from the Eighty-Five Style Tai Ji Chuan, and it follows the original tradition of Yang Style in action and style. Some Tai Ji Chuan fans think that the two routines are the same thing, but they have different names. But after careful analysis, the difference between the two is easy to distinguish.
From the boxing frame, Tai Ji Chuan of Type 85 is a typical Tai Ji Chuan, while the boxing frame of Type 88 is not as wide as that of Type 85.
The difference between eighty-five and eighty-eight Tai Ji Chuan.
On the movement route, the upper limb movement of Type 85 is to walk in a flat circle, and Type 88 is to walk in a vertical circle.
From the difficulty of completing the action, the progressive footwork in the 85-style moves focuses on turning the forefoot outward without sitting back, and then stepping on the hind foot directly. People usually call this kind of progress with leg strength and technical requirements (hard heel pulling). The 88-type progressive movement can sit back with the center of gravity, the forefoot is turned outwards, and the hind sole touches the ground on the ankle joint of the forefoot before stepping on it. Although it seems that the movements are not much different, I realize that the 88-style movements are much easier to complete in practice. Of course, the exercise effect of type 85 will be better.
Because the content and form of the two routines are not much different, novices often get confused. Experienced people are more likely to distinguish between technical style and action.
Extended reading:
The difference between 88-style Tai Ji Chuan and traditional 85-style Tai Ji Chuan.
It is generally believed that Type 85 requires solid foot rotation and Type 88 is virtual foot rotation, which is the most fundamental difference between Type 88 Tai Ji Chuan and traditional Type 85 Tai Ji Chuan. In addition, it is the most obvious difference whether you turn around with your left foot or not.
Learning Tai Ji Chuan begins with simplifying the twenty-four and forty-eight formulas. After learning these two sets of Tai Ji Chuan, I want to choose one of the eighty-eight and eighty-five styles to study. I want to choose type 88, because it is closely related to my previous study. However, after a thorough and detailed study of the 88-style and the traditional 85-style, I realized that the traditional 85-style Tai Ji Chuan is Yang Chengfu's stereotyped boxing frame, the representative boxing frame of the traditional Yang-style Tai Ji Chuan, and the crystallization of Yang's learning for generations. It's a little different from Type 88 Tai Ji Chuan in the details of every movement. I only give an example here to illustrate the similarities and differences between the two when the next step (servant step) is transferred to the independent step.
According to master Li Deyin's explanation, the footwork turns into an independent step, and you should pay attention to the tossing and turning of your feet. When the footwork turns to lunge, with the center of gravity moving forward, the toes of the forefoot are turned outwards, the toes of the hind feet are buckled inwards, and then the (rear) legs are lifted independently. He stressed that the hind feet should be buckled first and then lifted independently, so as to be more relaxed.
According to Fu Qingquan's explanation, when the servant stepped down to follow the independence of the Golden Rooster, he put his left (front) foot out first, but left it out again. At the same time, he put his left hand under his right hand, turned his back and raised his hind legs, and the Golden Rooster became independent. He emphasized that the right leg was lifted directly by the strength of the waist and buttocks, rather than buttoning the left foot first.
He also said that some boxers don't put their left (front) feet out, and they can't loosen their hips unless they put them out, so they don't have the inertia to take their actions out. Some boxers buckle their right (rear) foot when their left foot swings outward. If their right foot is buckled, their crotch will be straight, and then they will have no waist function when lifting their legs independently, which is equivalent to the movements of their hands and legs. This action requires the waist, and the hind legs are lifted together with the waist and buttocks.
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