Who's to blame for self-driving accidents?

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Wang Gang

"Style" publisher

Heard Mr. Yu Tong's radio program to do a period of such a discussion, and recently test drove the Mercedes-Benz E midterm modification, in fact, a lot of the highlights are in the intelligent assisted driving, the new forces of a variety of products in the continuous launch of the Tesla's model?Y is also about to be domestically produced, plus the Various traditional car companies you compete, assisted driving seems to have really become the meat and potatoes of some consumers, these technologies are really what you value when you buy a car? After the purchase will have a high degree of practicality?

From the level of the state and the law, assisted driving can be, including some assisted parking, low-speed following, automatic braking and so on, but hands off the steering wheel, attention is not focused on the car's driving completely or even if not completely in the hands of the system responsible for are illegal. But we can see on various platforms at home and abroad, car owners on the highway to show the performance of each brand of car autopilot video, completely let go of the wheel, high-speed driving, laughing and joking. In fact, to be a person na, do not make will not die, the resulting accidents abound. The country may be in order to support the development of new technologies, some brands of what they do a bit of a laissez-faire, do not have accidents are happy, even if Tesla out of a few things, did not see the judgment of compensation for how much money, which is if it is put in a traditional car companies, it is estimated that the bankruptcy of the long ago. The development of law is always lagging behind, I don't know what so many think tanks and experts who are paid by the state are doing. In the absence of uniform standards, everyone's thinking a numb today, the regulations should be tougher for drivers, although the brand can do test drives on the open road, but the road to real autonomous driving is still long, without regard to their own and other people's safety of autonomous driving is to jeopardize the safety of the public ****.

For the brand, Tesla has just entered China, and was fortunate enough to be selected to test the ?model?S. The engineers swore that our car could drive itself, and that's what they said on the product promotion materials.? Test drive for a week, ask me for feedback, no matter how good or bad the car is, I just say that these features are assisted driving, far from automatic, do not mislead consumers.? But now a lot of new forces are using the word autonomous driving to attract consumers, and traditional manufacturers are again being overly cautious and wary.? Please be rational, the development of technology should not be at the expense of human life.? Some people say, such a good technology, during the development, the death of a few people for the benefit of the public what's wrong, I want to ask the death of that person why not you.

As a car owner, you flaunt these technologies, many traditional car manufacturers many years ago as a technical reserve, you do not take their own lives seriously, do not pull on others to do the back of the, feel that they have money na prepare good money, do not go wrong when the compensation and cry poor, this kind of thing, the state will not manage, manufacturers you can not sue, only their own back. The people have brains is a good thing.

Xia Dong

"Kick the car gang" host, producer

Tesla is still the leading brand of autopilot. It's NOA is the highest configuration. In the US, after setting the navigation, it's pretty much on autopilot. In addition to being able to drive on the highway and get on and off ramps, it can merge fully automatically - the kind where you don't have to manually hit the turn signal. On regular roads, automatic stopping at traffic light intersections is provided. It stops automatically regardless of red or green. Then a person can press the driver's pedal to drive it on. It also recognizes stop signs, has a smart summon function in parking lots, fully automatic parking, and more. But, the software is called Beta, and then, it has to be upgraded by collecting user usage data. After being tested by the U.S. Consumer Reports, it was found to be just a little too much Beta. The rigorous media is not approving of this, but most, if not the vast majority of Tesla users are very approving, because people who spend $8,000, now $10,000 on options, consider themselves geeks and participants in the Tesla business. That's what makes Musk so great. He's made a name for himself and a fortune, and he's become the godfather of the religion of technology. He didn't cheat people, he just made it look like he could do a Beta in three years and make it happen in one year, and then, the guys followed him through the thick and thin, volunteering for experiments at their own expense. It's just that a business vision, no matter how grand, is still business. When it comes to the buyer's main entrance, it's not about faith, it's about a consumer experience. Chinese companies are also progressing quite fast now, Azera's NOP has just been made available to users on the EC6. Tesla's lead distance is closing on a quarterly basis. It's just that the thing that makes me feel a bit worried is tech innovation. Our institutional reforms that don't go deeper at the right time are going to prevent innovation from going deeper now. Take for example autopilot. Beijing only allows high-precision map navigation outside the fifth ring road. This kind of restriction may exist in other areas as well. So how can Chinese companies compete with American companies in the current level of innovation in international relations? Tesla can innovate in the US and make money in China. Chinese companies, on the other hand, can only innovate in China and make money in China.

Song Haitao

"HaiChuan PinChe"

"Roadside Parking Lot" investor

Autonomous driving this thing, I'm sorry, it should be called assisted driving, I don't have any say in this, although I also once drove so many vehicles that claimed to be able to reach the L2 level, or even quasi-L3 level, but I'm sorry to tell you that, regarding the assisted driving function of these vehicles, I didn't dare to say anything. I didn't dare to use the assisted driving function of these vehicles. For one thing, test-driving is just a job for me, and I can't afford to put my life on the line for a few bucks; for another, the so-called self-driving technology of any model at this stage is not up to the point that it can reassure people, so instead of using the assisted driving function that makes you scared, I would rather be down-to-earth and drive my own car.

Li Geng

Car Intelligence Editor-in-Chief

"Car One Plus One," "Go Geng Vlog,"

"Get in the Car and Eat! "

For the realization of automatic driving, this should be an irreversible direction of development, the technical level is certainly gradually mature, depending on the car companies for the application of these technologies is to adopt what kind of open approach. From the application point of view, some of the mature features of the automatic driving technology does bring safety and convenience to the car owner, after all, radar, camera, infrared to be better than the human eye, the response speed of the electronic system is also much faster than the human reaction. The highest realm of automatic driving technology is driverless, from the technical maturity and laws and regulations should be perfect, then will really free both hands and feet, and even do not need to take a driver's license.

Tesla's development mode itself is a subversion of the traditional car, dare to take all kinds of risks to let the owner become a guinea pig, the purpose of doing so is to greatly shorten its own testing and R & D costs, and can collect more data on daily use scenarios, which in the traditional automotive mindset is even considered to be contrary to the standard of morality. However, from a big data perspective, such an approach will indeed be better than collecting data through traditional testing methods, because testers will subjectively realize that they will test for the sake of testing, but many daily application scenarios are unforeseeable. Of course, car owners who are willing to participate in the test can not be faulted, just have to be charged, you have to admire Musk's marketing tactics.

Cui Jun

"Style Car Review" producer

There are two concepts to be clarified here, one is automatic driving and the other is intelligent driving. Autonomous driving refers to fully automated driving technology that is completely independent of human beings, where the vehicle no longer relies on human control to complete the journey from A to B on its own, and reacts automatically to the road conditions during the journey, which is undoubtedly the ultimate goal. Intelligent driving is now more commonly known as intelligent driver assistance systems, that is, we now often see companies claiming the L2 level, even to the L3 level, the vehicle still has to be under the dominant control of people to partially complete some of the actions of automatic driving. Although we now see many companies in the publicity mentioned "L2 +", "L2.9" and other words, in fact, the essence is still L2 level. In view of the current legal, insurance and hardware and software technology limitations, in the time we can want to see a fully automated driving will not appear in the full open road, but the technology trend is irreversible, the end of the technology will still be self-driving society. But at this stage, we still want to advise you not to blindly believe in corporate propaganda, blindly believe in the so-called "automatic driving" propaganda, responsible for themselves and their passengers, please continue to hold on to the steering wheel. The company should not exaggerate the functions and usage scenarios of the "intelligent driving" assistance system, and should be responsible for the personal and property safety of the car owners, so mind your pen.

Yu Yingzhao

Managing director of the automotive division of Style magazine

When it comes to intelligent assisted driving, or "autonomous driving" in the eyes of many, no matter what your attitude toward it, you can't deny that it's getting a lot of attention. Take me for example, not long ago got a new car, but also by chance to join a group of owners of this model, I found that the daily discussion in addition to after-sales maintenance and other issues, we are very concerned about the car's intelligent assisted driving features, many people when they bought the configuration of the low no, and then spend a lot of money in the tuning store there to add the ACC adaptive cruise control or lane-change assist and other functions of a large number of people. Fuel car owners are still so, those fans of the new forces can be imagined. To be honest, looking at the entire automotive industry, regardless of the level of each "intelligent assisted driving", it has become a trend "label".

A few days ago I watched a video of a kol testing the NOP Pilot Assist feature that has just been introduced in the Azera EC6, and objectively speaking, it performed well, and with the help of the built-in high-precision maps the driver can let go of his hands most of the time if there are not too many cars on the road. Even so, the guy was still holding the steering wheel in vain, ready to take over, I can see he was very nervous. Understandably, there have been too many "rollover" cases before, from Tesla to Ideal.

With the current level of development of intelligent assisted driving, letting the car drive itself is undoubtedly brain-dead behavior. Take me for example, occasionally driving on the highway when turning on a "lane departure warning", can really prevent distraction or dozing off. There are times when the car in front of the emergency braking, "collision warning system" timely intervention is also particularly reassuring, should be given to the progress of science and technology praise.

I often ask myself, if my car is equipped with the most cutting-edge L3 level driver assistance system, will my mind be changed? Uh ...... It's hard to say, you might be trembling for a few days, and then you'll get the hang of it too. After all, press a button and do not have to care about anything, should drink coffee, should brush the circle of friends to brush the circle of friends, or even sleep a sleep, this temptation is too big, accidentally brother also became a "geek" it, instantly with the "editor's perspective" that group of turkeys to pull away! I'm not going to be able to do that...

Look, this is the side effect of technological progress, easy to make people lazy, easy to detach from the masses, easy to die young.

He Yi

"Super Horsepower" producer

Vision Car Technology co-founder

The evolution of human biometrics is extremely slow, while industrial products show a trend of faster and faster evolution with the help of technology, such as cell phones and cars. The driverless direction of automobiles must be the future direction, which I firmly believe. However, the process from L1 to L5 can only be described as a process of evolution, and therefore all the tests required for evolution are also missing, because we can't overstep the process of evolution. This process of various types of accidents is precisely the biggest test faced by the driverless, which is the same as Jack Ma's "ant gold service", who all know that financial technology is the future direction, but also know that if the regulation is not in place, the risk of the middle is also huge. These two are very similar, not only to firmly and bravely towards the future, but also can not ignore the lives of ordinary users, property and information security, can not be because of the future of the good and ignore the current problem, enterprises and the government need to do a lot more.

Zhang Liwei

"Famous Cars" producer/editor-in-chief

Come to a soulful torture, the relationship between people and intelligent technology has always been the subject of science fiction movies. Personally, I don't think the age of full automation is coming, it has something to do with human nature. But the progress of science and technology can not be stopped, the future will be in certain closed roads to realize the hands away from the automatic driving. Even when all cars have to be equipped with autopilot as a piece of equipment, so that all participating vehicles on the road adhere to a standard, that's when autopilot may be better realized. Look at the Tesla accidents, the outcome is the same every time. Human error, as if their back office had everything and shrugged off the responsibility. So Autopilot, will stay at the L3 level for a long, long time, and the driver will have to sit honestly in the driver's seat. Wishful thinking is good, reality is a distance away.

Miu Jun

"MJ Car Talk" founder, "Noblesse" automotive general counsel

About Autopilot, Tesla in this regard is indeed recognized as the world's most leading brand, especially its FSD function, I have seen some demonstrations on the Internet! I've also seen some demo videos on the internet, it just looks very smart. I think the Autopilot feature should play a key role in attracting consumers to the Model 3, which is a $100,000 standard car with space and interior, because it can be sold for $250,000 and so many people are still attracted to it. Perhaps, those old traditional car companies also have a similar function of the technical reserves, but only Tesla dared to apply in the production model, so it has all the other brands on the market do not have some attributes, or called scarcity. At the user level, I guess the owners of this car must think this feature is very cool, although most of the car owners who are a little bit rational, I believe that they will not really sleep while letting the car autopilot. I've had my own experience with the Model 3, and it's embarrassing that the auto-pilot feature is so sporadic that it's often called up just when I'm about to give up. One thing is for sure though, as long as this feature can be successfully activated, it's a really good experience on closed roads like viaducts. It's just that I'm more cautious and shallow. Because letting the car drive itself can be much more nerve-wracking than driving myself!

Liu Hongcang

Author of "Automobile House - Car House"

Whether it's Tesla or Azera, the attraction of assisted driving may not be so attractive after a while, as many traditional car makers can catch up quickly. All of these technologies are certainly equipped, including VW's just-released ID4. The advantage of the new forces over traditional car manufacturers is still mainly the C2M idea, which means fully listening to consumer opinions and understanding consumer pain points, and come up with products that can make consumers more satisfied. At the same time, in terms of electronic and electrical architecture, the new forces can also leave enough intelligent space, so that the car has more intelligent feasibility. In these two aspects, traditional car manufacturers do have short boards, and traditional car manufacturers to make up for the short board of time, is the window period of the new forces. Make up, we continue to compete together, can not make up, this traditional car factory may be in danger.

This article comes from the author of the automobile home car family number, does not represent the views of the automobile home position.